Other name: (Promised Neverland) Tech-zine future (inspired by July '97 edition of WIRED; kyberia.sk "Future need us" write-up; [picture] [link to read]) (pictured)
pipe dream of history channel, PBS, NPR, * discovery ch., TLC.... and hhow they fell off... the free education from internet, no control, no school, basically start of trekkie future... and it is gone, abused as everything nice into service. cant have shit. it started with how internet pulled off by dotcom bubble, and continues into how all good things get burried. you call it enshittification now
internet ruined whole generation of early (2000s) gen z[10]
Some others feel like the main issue is not the modern web in general, but capitalism or individual corporations expanding rapidly into the internet, a space which used to be largely community-run, open-source and led by scientific institutions at best[5] and small businesses at worst. Private capital, especially tech monopolies, owning massive social media sites such as Facebook or Twitter are said to extract as much value out of the internet as possible, and the individual user is the resource that is being exploited;
at the expense of privacy, enjoyment, safety, creativity and individuality, neutrality and the ability to socialize with others effectively. Such large internet conglomerates do not have their users' best interests at heart, inject ads, trackers and spy software into our everyday applications, and progressively make sites less usable and fun for the sake of advertiser friendliness and profit.
People who adhere to this strain also tend to support community-run, non-profit, open source and libre projects over privately owned services. They will likely emphasize the revolutionary potential of a DIY internet, portraying this movement as an inherently political, anti-capitalist organization, and will have strong opinions on political and social issues.
They might also stress how an independent, decentralized web cannot be that easily used for censorship, fake news and artificial engagement, making it inherently more democratic. They usually do not understand or support other parts of the web revival idealizing and using corporate services like MSN, ICQ, Myspace, Windows, Discord and others that are more common in the more art and aesthetic focused parts of the internet, as well as privately owned services pandering to a "retro" or "before-Musk" crowd like Bluesky or Neocities.[4]
The Socialites
Yet some others just do not like the way big social media sites and the web at large work: toxic people, debates and discourse are everywhere and in some cases even encouraged by a lot of the modern internet. Technology like the almighty "algorithm", meaning a content recommendation system that decides what shows up on your front page, are said to make socializing on the internet almost impossible without serious harm to your mental health.
[I myself have written at length about the topic.] Instead, they want to use the web in other ways to socialize and express themselves, beyond what mainstream social media allows them to do. They might like simply hanging out on forums and using e-mail to communicate, using web-rings to discover other people and browsing the web organically.
There are also some alt-social media sites and systems such as the Fediverse, Crabber (now defunct), Bluesky or SpaceHey to fill these niches. Sometimes they run fan sites or fanlistings and are really into the aspect of social networking. They have a strong overlap with the "retro" crowd, but more related to usability than that specific aesthetic. Or sometimes both:
plenty of people are disappointed by how little they can express themselves creatively on mainstream social media. For them, web making is a community and a hobby first and foremost, and the social aspect is in its focus.[4]
...Much of the aesthetic is characterized by nostalgia for an idealized[11]past, often seen as "more wholesome" than modern American culture and style...
Talking of Hauntology - PNL can make us look over for "what went wrong/what could be//get better", this is, speaking figuratively. Human imagination, in these forms, presents to us, "what could have been's" - world envisioned: in 10, 50, 100, 500 years. Many projects and arts envisioned our "future"s, now long-gone (1800s, 1900s, 1950s-1980s ~ y2k).
pro-freedom hackers (free info, knowledge, source-code), cyberpunk ("its all just 0s and 1s, man... what is so special, what need protection, man; chill..."), "long bloom", "promised 80s neverland", (Once upon a time-space - Barrille) futures; human-library-utopic, free world, calm, pre-9/11 dreams (y2k), new ways-opportunities-progress, tech = (as) saviour, "gay space free commie", unity-community-mutual help-understanding, econ. boom, "kids are alright"/no real deal, small media-only, man vs himself/bad habits (spooks?), theories of mind and research (everything is relative > no meaning, or value > nihilism); slow steady steps, new school(s) of thought, "kids = (are) future", "we build this city"/people-first, man-gov collab. ~mutual help/or, liberation (from "spooks")...
- similar to
vaporware- In the computer industry, vaporware is a product, typically computer hardware or software, that is announced to the general public but is late or never actually manufactured nor officially cancelled. Use of the word has broadened to include products such as automobiles. Wikipedia
In reality, even white families struggled to obtain and later maintain this image of constant happiness, success, and tidy perfection that was promised to them by advertisers and pushed on them by the government through Social Guidance films. Adults turned to drugs and alcohol to cope, and the backlash against the status quo that was building in their children led to the countercultural movements[13][4]of the 1960s and 1970s, including but not limited to the feminist movement, the gay rights movement, and the Civil Rights movement.
In summary, Western civilization in the 1950s was like a Mentos-filled coke bottle, waiting to pop. Even though families smiled and acted like everything was perfect, underneath the thin layer of prosperity was a cesspool of bigotry, mental health issues, and internalized rage and depression. That's why the 1950s is fascinating for so many people, and the subject of many paranormal or horror films, TV shows, or other works of media-- underneath those smiling faces and happy families were deep wounds that were never healed.
as the wave of the future to create a potential futuristic utopia in place of psychedelics. It was popularized by the emerging Rave scene and cyberculture of the Late 80's and Early 90's, which lead to the aesthetic's peak with the release of the movie Hackers in 1995. It was commonly seen in advertisements, rave flyers, and media from the 1990's.
Cyberpunk narratives often incorporate a sense of hopelessness or nihilism, typically featuring a gritty and violent backdrop, with crime, artificial intelligence, class uprising, governmental and corporate corruption, anarchy, gang warfare
Visually spoken, Cyperparadism is an aesthetic that celebrates the beauty and power of nature while incorporating technological advancements in a way that promotes sustainability and simplicity. It offers a vision of a utopian society where humans and nature coexist in harmony, and where technology is used to enhance rather than detract from the natural world.
Unlike Solarpunk, Cyberparadism doesn't allow itself to live in symbiosis with nature, but dominates it where it should be dominated and leaves it alone where it isn't necessary anymore. Another aspect very prominent in Solarpunk that is absent in Cyberparadism is the cooperative do-it-yourself spirit very reminiscent of medieval artisanry and craftsmanship that can be seen in many depictions of Solarpunk.
The setting of Cyberparadism is less important than the ethos and values that underlie it. Whether it takes place in a futuristic utopia or a small off-the-grid community, Cyberparadism is characterized by a focus on harmonious relationship with nature, positive use of technology, cooperation, and the enjoyment of life's pleasures. It is a subgenre that celebrates the beauty and power of nature, while also acknowledging the potential of technology to enhance and enrich the human experience.
- which is all related to
[This is] a non-exhaustive list of keywords and related concepts:[]
idea: question is, if we, in the end , wouldnt end in the same path as those we hate, those rich bitches. tired to improve things,
On CVs and jobs:[]
yes, thats why i gave up. i dont want to fight. why to fight when you cant win. i was made this way, so if i cant get it, i dont want to care. and if i feel guilty,. then its your fault because you dont see me, dont know what i want to say, and i am too tired to explain you all of this. it scares me. did ai and harari won then? well, with me, say yes. bye, go f yourself if ou are blind to all this... (not saying to you, just ramble in general)ired to explain you all of this. it scares me. did ai and harari won then? well, with me, say yes. bye, go f yourself if ou are blind to all this... (not saying to you, just ramble in general)
- Ale chápem („" - nechcem) - idú do toho; a sú z toho prachy - no samozrejme. Zombie spoločnosť, čo žije z vlastnej (Západ) minulej slávy, pochopiteľne, nemá nič iné v rukáve; (nič iné) na výber. Chcel by som sa čudovať - nemám čomu - snáď to (ak; toto všetko; bolo takto vždy(cky)- v skutočnosti kultúra, alebo ako tento zeitgest, pre-hauntológiu nazvať - tak zo 20-30 rokov je kultúra, jej piliere, morálka - všetko je to mŕtve.
[...]call this no-ask world Zombie-one. You maybe heard about Vaporwave (outside of music genre), Hauntology, (Aenomoia) or Monument Mythos. Something like that, if not basically that. Are we afraid to question things from fear of losing them, them being stolen from us by some Bad actors, or that we will be labeled, marked as conspirators (let it be what it meant before, or even after shift of meaning)?[...]
Acid Communism (and or Milleniwave)[]
is the name I gave to this range of ideas and actions. The concept of acid communism is a challenge but also offers promise. It's kind of a joke, but with a very serious end goal. It points to something that, at one point, seemed inevitable, but now seems inconceivable:
the convergence of class consciousness, socialist-feminist awakening, and psychedelic consciousness, the fusion of new social movements with a communist plan, an everyday life manifested through an unprecedented elegance. Acid Communism refers both to real historical processes and to the emergence of an imaginary that has not yet manifested itself in reality. Possibilities manifest their effect before they are even realized. The dominant forms of social organization are formed to suppress the realization of any other possible social formation. The imprint of "a world that could be free" can be traced to the very structures of a capitalist realist world that makes freedom impossible.
The late cultural critic Ellen Willis said that the transformations envisioned by the counterculture would require "a social and mental revolution of unimaginable magnitude." [10] It is difficult, in our far more anemic times, to recreate the confidence with which the counterculture espoused that such a "social and mental revolution" not only could happen, but was already underway. And yet it is necessary to reflect on a time when the prospect of total liberation seemed imminent.[18]
[...] that the function of the mass media is to manipulate our imaginations so that to identify the fulfillment of our desires with the purchase of the goods sold to us by the system". [13] Mass culture—and musical culture in particular—was more a field of struggle than a form of capital rule. The relationship between aesthetic forms and politics was unstable and two-way — aesthetic forms did not simply "express" some pre-existing capitalist reality, they anticipated and produced new possibilities, new realities. Commercialization was not a point where this tension would always and inevitably be resolved in favor of capital. On the contrary, goods could potentially be the very means by which revolutionary currents were spread.
Going far beyond the simple narrative that, "the 60s ushered in neoliberalism," these new readings of the 1970s allow us to understand the brave intelligence, ferocious energy, and improvisational imagination of a revolution against in neoliberalism. The establishment of capitalist realism was by no means a simple restoration of the old state of affairs:
the compulsory individualism imposed by neoliberalism was a new form of individualism, an individualism set against the different forms of collectivism that flourished in the 1960s. This new individualism was designed to transcend us and make us forget all these collective forms of life. Thus, reflecting on these multiple forms of collectivity is less an act of remembrance and more a struggle against oblivion, a way of remembering, the call of the ghost of a world that could be free.
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The counterculture of the 60s is now inseparable from its own simulation, and the reduction of an entire decade to a few "iconic" images, to "classic" songs and nostalgic memories has neutralized the real promises that were blown up back then.
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"The past is much safer," observes one of the narrators of Margaret Atwood's dystopian satire The Heart Goes Last , "because everything it contains has already happened. It cannot be changed: so, in a way, there is nothing to fear." [8] Despite what Atwood's narrator believes, however, the past has not "already happened." The past is constantly being retold, and the political meaning of narratives from the side of sovereignty is to suppress the possibilities that are waiting in earlier times, ready to reawaken. (FUCK THOSE WHO DO)
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Capitalism is a system that creates artificial scarcity to produce real scarcity, a system that produces real scarcity to create artificial scarcity. Real scarcity – the scarcity of natural resources – now haunts the Capital. / This is the Real - which the fantasy of infinite "expansion", of unchecked "growth" must work overtime to cope with. The artificially constructed condition of scarcity and scarcity—which is essentially a lack of time—is necessary, / as Marcuse says, in order to distract us from the innate possibility of freedom. The victory of neoliberalism, of course, has always depended on confusing the concept of freedom itself. Neoliberal "freedom", / apparently, is not freedom from work, but freedom through work. [bleh]
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"In any case, Marcuse allows us to see why the Sixties still continue to disturb. In recent years, the 60s suddenly seem like a distant, deep past, so exotic and distant that we can't even imagine living in it. At the same time the sixties now seem like a historical period much more alive than our own — a time when people lived intensely, when things really "happened". However, the 60s haunt us not because of some irreparable and unrepeatable confluence of factors, but because its potential was realized and democratized – because this was the time when the prospect of a life free from compulsion and drudgery manifested itself. All this, on the part of the system, must be constantly suppressed." [--------------- i call it utopistic nostalgia[6];]
Rollerwave is indicative of a future where the Cold War never ended, computers still feature cold dark screens with robotic green text, and mundane tan office buildings are ever-present.
Like Vaporwave, Rollerwave can serve as a deconstruction and critique of capitalism and a reflection on nostalgia- however, unlike Grindhouse, Rollerwave takes a purely utopian approach, with a hint of societal issues and ominous tones thrown in. It does not concern itself with the lower classes of society. Like the setting of Rollerball, Rollerwave is a futuristic projection of the 1970s where society does not advance in style or attitude past the 1970s, but makes substantial leaps ahead in technology, and the wanton economic corruption of the decade gives way to systemic injustice.
[The first modern Rollerwave album, "To Every Man," created by a musician going by the name of Dan Frost in 2017, was unknown until he went public in June 2021 after the album cover's leak. Frost describes the term "Rollerwave," which he coined, as an ironic response to Vaporwave. The full album was released on July 1, 2021 on Dan Frost's YouTube channel.
Earlier music that could be termed Rollerwave music can generally be attributed to the Scottish electronic music group Boards Of Canada, whose music is undeniably 70s, making use of analog reel-to-reel machines and keyboards, however some aspects of Daft Punk's music, in particular the music video for Technologik or the theme and tone of Random Access Memories, are reminiscent of the 70s. This makes sense, considering that according to the 20-30-year-cycle nostalgia for the 70s would crop up in the 90s and 2000s.]
While Rollerwave music is usually electronic in nature, sampling 70s electronic groups such as Kraftwerk or Giorgio Moroder, soft easy-listening pieces and adult contemporary music from the 70s can also apply, or be sampled to create new pieces. (Think Meatloaf, Jim Croce or Billy Joel during his Stranger period.) Also Muzak. The latter pieces are considered "soft" while electronica-centric remixes can be deemed "hard" rollerwave.
Modern Rollerwave, unlike the catalog of BoC, relies more heavily on samples than original synth scores, and utilizes all the auditory techniques of vaporwave (i.e. chopping, splicing, looping, and reverb).
Rollerwave music typically samples American 70s folk songs, PSAs, cartoons of the era, and Prog Rock, and implements rock organs, Moog synths, and drum machines, all played back on cassette or 8-track. Some notable bands which reflect the gist of Rollerwave music include:
Boards Of Canada, Talking Heads, Yes, The Buggles, Giorgio Moroder, Lalo Schifrin, Kraftwerk, Electric Light Orchestra, Stardust, Devo, Andre Previn and Blondie
-n.squieira
Futuristic dystopian office space seen in James Caan's 1975 film Rollerball, the namesake of Rollerwave.
Screenshot from a fan-created Boards Of Canada music video, presumably from a 70s episode of Sesame Street.
Junior Bruce, a character from Roger Corman's 1975 film Death Race 2000.
Visual Representation of Rollerwave originally uploaded by user vaporwavemaster1 to the Agora Road Macintosh Cafe forums March 8, 2021.
[...] In exchange for the commodities that enrich their lives [...] individuals sell not only their labor but also their leisure time. [...] People live in apartment buildings — and they have private cars, but they can no longer escape to a different world. They have huge fridges full of frozen food. They have dozens of newspapers and magazines that support the same ideals. They have innumerable options, innumerable gadgets that are all of the same kind and which preoccupy them and distract them from the real issue – which is, the awareness that they could work less and determine for themselves their real needs and ways of satisfying them".
philosophy is rooted in using the media of the past and the messages of sharing, inclusivity, anti-bigotry, honesty, and just overall being kind to others (often referred to by adherents as "The Golden Rule"), and hopes to use that as a vessel to promote this overall positive message.
Hopefully, we will steer society away from the iceberg dead ahead that is complete and total techno-dystopia; the likes of which Cyberpunk literature of the past warned us about; a sort of tracing back our footsteps to see where it is we went wrong exactly and attempt to course correct in the process.
However, the closer and closer we get to crashing into the aforementioned metaphorical iceberg, the more that crawling negative sense of existential dread creeps in and one is forced to retreat into the comforting arms of nostalgia until things hopefully calm down and don’t burn down around us.
Dear millenials in their early 30s, do you also sometimes, during a normal day, working, content, relatively calm, get these unexpected, huge, albeit very short lasting waves of
I HATE THE STATE OF THE WORLD, I HATE MYSELF, I AM USELESS, I HATE LIVING IN A TINY RENTED ROOM, I HAVE NO GENERATIONAL WEALTH, MY GOVERNMENT HAS FAILED ME, I CANNOT FIND A RELIABLE PARTNER, NOTHING WILL BE AS PROMISED DURING MY FORMATIVE YEARS, I HATE SOCIAL MEDIA, I AM DUMB, I SHOULDN'T BE HERE AT ALL, I WANT TO OFF MYSELF
emotions that get back to normal after like 10 minutes? Is it a canon event? Can't we interfere?
@K1ng1995 I think that there are two reasons why people don't want to work anymore. the first is that they have been taught that their ambition is destructive and that anything they would have wanted to do will just burn electricity that they believe is a more finite resource than it actually is. The second is that because fewer people are being ambitious leaders, those who tend to be followers don't have anyone to inspire them to work for them.
this type of slacking... it seems new, from 2015-on... idk why. like, can imagine, but what is the (sudden) urge? they just said to themselves "this is over" and went like, "fuck it we will ruin it if we cant have it nice"?
- Topics:
giving up, making up own reality, silently walking away from "old culture", "millenial revolution", "west has fallen", r-w politics in 2020s politics, mistrust in govs and higher institutions ("what else are you hidding/lies/it is not that deep bro") - tiredness, switch-and-bait "life-help" (gurus), alt-right (soc.) theories [sigmas, bros]... :
(80s/)90s - "conspi. nuts" ("what are they (gov.) hidding from us?!") (occult, mystery, conspi. themes in games and media)
2000s - "future will be bright! we have computers!" (50s promises)
2010s - "how can we fight back and use this knowledge from past to make, form, shape our own new future!?" (such things as "millenial revolution"... | but too, lot of alt. subcultures go mainstream)
2015-2020s - is gov. ruining things again? (fighting back; when this fired, people just leave soc. media, "walk away" from drama, spooks and traps | 90s, part 2)
as in 80s and 90s (by 2012s,) netpunk/warez/libgen... "piracy" is high, while last remnants of technopositivism try to catch second breath ("tiktok/youtube revolutionairies")
tired, numbed down people - "if I don't have anything (to lose), anything is allowed", positive ("vibey") nihilism (mainly, late millenials, zillenials and huge(ly) gen-z growing out from "promised futures" of frutiger aero and eco...)
I also like clear plastics and kind of hope to buy myself an Apple Newton eMate 300 one day, albeit I have no idea what I would use it for...
And if we are about to talk about cars, I can talk hours about cars... I have gigabytes of photos, some personal magazine scans, custom cars, concept cars...
I guess, I should leave it at this for now, but if you are interested in cars as much as I am - just let me know. I can upload my whole collection, if you want.
I have something to add. In my opinion, as someone rather poetically put it somewhere "humanity collectively lost belief in itself". I myself feel you can clearly see it starting somewhere in the 20's, when people dreamt of space, and then all those space flights actually happened, and they've influenced people for at least a decade.
/ But then, as people figured out that there will be no space flights, no distnat planets, no alien races or whatever else, you can pretty much see how science fiction was replaced in culture by much grittier cyberpunk genre. Still, at that moment at least computers were a novelty, and so people still had fantasies about AI, robots and cybernetics. As those became a mundane reality - or much closer to being one
- they pretty much repeated the way of sci-fi: people realised just how much of cybernetics and AI we will have and... well, pretty much stopped pushing the envelope for whatever reason... I'm not sure why it happens. But once the biggest part of the world realises how impossible them fantasies are, they, in general, cease to be. Dreams only held up among general population when they have some slight chance of possibility of actually being real.
I mean, you still can find those traces of genuine dreams - usually, in some small, underground places. Indy movies and video games, undergrounds music, small kit cars made by order, etc. But they never-ever go big.
You can argue what people before 20's dreamt about, but I guess it is pretty much adamant that there were dreams. Nowadays when we know everything, it is hard to dream about something - you gotta be practical, logical, material. And it is further enforced by society for whatever reason. Something along those lines... I've wrote this idea about half a dozen times at this point, yet today I kind of feel I did not make myself clear. But I hope you've got the idea.[23]
I wouldn't call it romanticism, but more so apathy to the extreme. People are clearly displeased with the state of everything, but fixing anything in a reasonable amount of time would require a period of discomfort and despite how much we shit on everything, I think we would all like to keep our comforts.
Trying to change anything while maintaining those comforts would take a considerable amount of time and effort. A lot of younger people have worked hard without seeing the fruits of their labour, so they don't see much of a point to subjecting themselves to a larger workload for the same outcome they've experienced a million times before.
We like to think we're selfless, but we're all selfish, obviously some more so than others, but you get the idea. We would like to see good things happen to ourselves and the people immediately surrounding us first and foremost. Good things only happening down the line when we're all gone can be demoralizing.[23]
> me (reply):
yes. (and not only end times - just change, "revolution")"now or nothing"
lot of time, here, in central-eastern europe, there was this (but not only here) force-feeding/cramming facts ad-absurdum. from like 1840s maria theresia, and even before... - just "making (manufacture) workers"but for the new "to be born", there must be something external - we cant imagine yet - we want, it, - but cant see; we are biased
waiting for (Godot) miracle - or catastrophe - to change things, shake up the ways, - "just, please, God, wtf, let something to happen!"
you maybe dont want to die - you just want for this "boredom" to end, change - something like 60s explosion of alt-cultures - to not be content anymore, to create New futures (and there it is - Mark Fisher, arguing over (i am simplifying - , and want to read Ghosts of my life) "dead, lost future" - e.g. -no way out- , future we cant even imagine - living just in this never-ending, contemporary present day, that one that was "promised" to be great "year 2000 (22)", somewhere from year 1950 maybe...
The greatest loss of the web wasn't decentralizacion, it was tech positivism. We do no longer search for a positive future, we remind ourselves of nostalgic futured corrupted by our modifiedversion of the "old days". We do no longer search for hope and a future, we resort to fake ones so we can try to escape the general soulless spirit that is present everywhere, like ultraminimalism or Corporate Memphis[4][8]. - [23]
Nostalgia, and by extension Vaporwave, is a generally depressive phenomenon. Our community is a collage of confused youth and wistful adults that are connected only by our common disenfranchisement[11]. On some level, we all recognize the degenerative state of our culture, our homes, and our status as sovereign human beings. Far from the empowering tool that it was advertised as in decades past, modern technology serves to remove as much agency as possible from the user, who is in reality more of a product that the services they use.
To me, traditional Vaporwave is a sorrowful reflection of the Western world, and a critique[4]of the technocratic "globohomo" capitalist system that has ruined the idealistic vision of the future that we were all promised.
I don't think it's a movement, because we're not moving anywhere[11]. I think it's more apt to describe vaporwave as a community of the truly disenfranchised (as opposed to those who only believe they are disenfranchised). I'm just another member.[23]
A long time, London-trained asset and close collaborator of Canada’s Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau was Maurice Lamontagne, a Club of Rome member and former President of Canada’s Privy Council from 1964-65.
Of all of the Club of Rome’s members, Lamontagne was the most candid in identifying the Earth’s greatest enemy to be human creativity itself. Writing in his Senate Committee Reports of 1968-1972 which reformed science policy funding and planning, Lamontagne wrote:
“Nature imposes definite constraints on technology itself and if man persists in ignoring them the net effect of his action in the long run can be to reduce rather than to increase nature’s potential as a provider of resources and habitable space… But then, an obvious question arises: How can we stop man’s creativeness?”
Correctly recognizing that the yearning to discover the unknown is built into the human condition, Lamontagne answers his own question, writing:
“How can we proclaim a moratorium on technology? It is impossible to destroy existing knowledge; impossible to paralyze man’s inborn desire to learn, to invent and to innovate… In the final analysis we find that technology is merely a tool created by man in pursuit of his infinite aspirations and is not the significant element invading the natural environment. It is material growth itself that is the source of conflict between man and nature.”
Thus, creativity and its fruits of technological progress are acceptable only IF they reduce the assumed conflict between man and nature posited by Lamontagne. “Bad” technology in Lamontagne’s formulation, has the effect of increasing humanity’s material growth (i.e.: powers of productivity). If, on the other hand, we promote technologies of a low energy flux density form, such as windmills, solar panels and biofuels, which reduce the energy available and thus the amount of economic activity in which man can engage, then technology can be defined as a “good” thing” according to this twisted logic.
This concept was echoed by another Club of Rome member and collaborator with Lamontagne on his Senate Report named Omond Solandt. Solandt made his career as the science advisor to Lord Louis Mountbatten (Prince Philip’s pedophile mentor) during WWII and headed Canada’s Defense Research Board until 1957, where he collaborated on MK Ultra alongside the infamous Ewan Cameron at McGill University. Testifying to the Lamontagne Senate Commission in 1970 Solandt said: “There is no longer any need to advance science. The need is rather to understand, guide and use science effectively for the welfare of mankind.”
What defines “the welfare of mankind” in the mind of an MK Ultra proponent should give one chills.
In preparation for the “post-industrial order” that was unleashed with the 1971 floating of the US dollar and the destruction of the Bretton Woods monetary system, Lamontagne prescribed that the “new wisdom” should no longer aim at discoveries in atomic, medical and space sciences, in order to focus on more “practical” engineering endeavors. He also proposed that funding to advanced science be diminished by widening the definition of “science” itself to embrace the humanities, monetary economics and social sciences. Those programs then began absorbing the funding that had formerly been directed to research on pure science. Lamontagne stated this in volume one of his report:
“The new wisdom prescribes that the additional R&D effort be devoted to the life sciences and social sciences rather than the physical sciences… to economic and social objectives rather than curiosity and discovery.”
[...]
In the pro-growth cultural dynamic of the 1960s and 1970s, the master key to this new age of abundance was understood to be found in the domain of fusion energy. The processes of fusing atoms like helium and hydrogen isotopes in order to generate vast amounts of energy had been harnessed after WWII, but sadly the application of this technology had only known destructive ends via thermonuclear weapons. However, there was no reason to think that peaceful uses of this immense power could not be made available if moral national policies could encourage it. The heat and energy densities of atomic fusion were incredible with a spoonful of ocean water yielding greater energy availability than thousands of barrels of oil.[26] > [27]
The term Raygun Gothic[3][3] was actually coined in 1981 by William Gibson in his short story The Gernsback Continuum, close to two decades after it fell out of popularity, but was used to describethe Streamline Moderne aesthetic, also known in context as 'The Tomorrow that Never Was'. Despite this, there have been false attributions of Raygun Gothic being a darker future of the 1960s. Despite it originally being used to describe Streamline Moderne, it is now a term linked to The Googie aesthetic.
As for thing like Aero giving hope, I think its just because we associate this style with the aforementionned thing.
or that feeling, "living in the future"
when y2k came, it was for people, like dream, fascination - hope:
- year 2000 is at the door, world looks bright, internet is "ough" to "solve" all our problems, maybe even "to topple the game (of rich bastards) down"...
-- feeling like this - if you got me (this sentiment, dream of utopia, unity, mutual understanding "coz of net" - oh man, if they knew...)
@manpaint : Always remember that love and hate are both two side of the same coin.
- which reminds me of thread [sic] "MLP and New Sincerity" - about being sincere, "you", - all that *sweet* (or not) jazz...
雨、Some_porcupine、 逃げ出した後 said:
or that feeling, "living in the future"
when y2k came, it was for people, like dream, fascination - hope:
- year 2000 is at the door, world looks bright, internet is "ough" to "solve" all our problems, maybe even "to topple the game (of rich bastards) down"...
-- feeling like this - if you got me (this sentiment, dream of utopia, unity, mutual understanding "coz of net" - oh man, if they knew...)
I think most of the current "holy fuck the future is going to be so bad" vibe come from the notion that the future had been previously overhyped that backfired overly. Truth to be told, I am unsure if there is even something to blame for that. Probably just the result of a post Cold War world I guess.
alix said:
I mean, Gen Z is already liking Y2K, Frutiger and shows like Lain, so why wouldn't some of them start looking in the more niche parts?
addendum:[]
#0 punks and emos of 2000s-2010s: basically "When we were young" fest, - safe for fact it was then "current thing": pic-rel + all those rock, punk, emo, - things (idea(l)s) playing on radio --- a psyop??? + 80s (music, not aesthetics) nostalgia occuring around that time... : music-rel (yeah, pretty much this playlist is "getting rich" from nostalgia - go, figure :/)
#1 youtube campaign "broadcoast yourself" - dawg man, i am so confussed how we could "get bought" over this - and believe come corporation! it sounds so - ironic; looking at it from lens of someone, living in *these* times "after fad"... - really believing(?) that commonmen can, thru sheer "influence" thru net, shape world... (what a joke!!!) [were we sold on *this feeling"!???][1]
#1b general naiivity over "corporations allowing us all this" - how was that not suspicious!! i wonder... (letting our guard and awareness so low) ~ but then, werent we (born 1999-and so; living with siblings (sister), of 8 year difference...)
#1.5 campaign of web providers (geocities, goDaddy or such), *basically* saying "be you"/"promote yourself"
(if you get me, that is; i am - getting nostalgic, over something i very fogly remember - in fact, now i get - why those "boomers" over here are getting nostalgic over living in socialism (when, they were kids... - so was i...)
--- WAS this all^ psy-op - contrarian messages, just "selling feeling", scham, make-believe dreams?
or is it that *there somewhere*, it was "all taken away from us" - well, as i see, that is very little probability, and it was just tactic to "get everyone on net" - those fxxx bastards!! (#me, being naiive...)[1]
The fall[33]: (and what went good in past) (Internet)[20][]
https://youtu.be/xZ84vYaAhGA - Dingbats on the Internet: A Representative Sample of the Idiots and Lunatics, Rogues, Fakes, and Chiselers Swarming on the Net
Shift[20] in understanding politics, culture and societal control[]
Alixie said:
This completely sucks. Not only because of what most people already know about (company forcing games to completely stay in line with a set of imposef values), but because of the full-on shitstorm that may arrive. Because instead of actually discussing this and trying to maybe put a stop to it, the only thing that may happen is as always, right-wing "anti-woke" Youtube channels going on a full meltdown over how they can no longer fap to their favourite Asian videogames because the world elites are trying to stop them (honestly, if your main problem with things like these are that you can no longer continue your addiction to videogame tits then you are as much of a "brainwashed sheep" as the people you accuse), and then everyone will just forget this and say "Well, it wasn't that bad actually", acting like if it was just some thing that got too exaggerated.
yes (same as with snowden, wikileaks, panama papers(*), cambridge analytica, <other> papers, article 13 (*nothing* happened - but really?), ... they are just "facts" now - but nothing out from the counter-protests back in the day!
if you yell without thought, then, they will lampoon(?) you around that you are idiot for being angry about "such thing"
the best thing is to thread without any noise and taking back what you was taketh from,
idk how, but way is, not to react - or they won - theyd paint you idiot, >... either overton window; (gaslight you and others that you are thinking wrong, overreact...) > if you got power, you can make it/them say 2+2=5, facts are yours... or rather, opinion on them; its all again the journobros talk and "graphs" out of ass... (graph from A and data from B dont make graph, but worldview - skewed view, opinion)
what they are trying for, would be unheard of back in 2000s, and questionable in 2010s...
(*)if it werent for vaporwave album titles, id forgot about Panama papers - would you?
e.g. how *that* became norm? : (~~)
lost future / post-occupy nonsense world / boring dystopia, - album
Tento clanok sa snazi ukazat, co sa moze stat v snahe o uskutocnenie vizii v clanku s podobnym nazvom. Treba sa naucit pozerat na akykolvek roblem z nadhladu, vzdy vidiet celkovy pohlad na vsetko okolo. Vascina ludi nanestastie vidi len ten svoj maly stvorcek pod sebou.
Technologie - uspavajuca hudba buducnosti
Prvy bod kritiky: VSETCI publikovani vedci a vyskumnici tvrdia, ze v ICH odbore COSKORO nastanu PREVRATNE zmeny a bude to VYZNAMNYM prinosom.
Otazky: Snazia sa kvoli uskutocneniu svojej vizie[35]len predat svoj produkt? (predaj produktu := ciel vizie) Dostali by grant na vyskum, keby toto netvrdili? Mali by rovnako velku podporu, keby povedali, ze vysledky vizii budu az o 80 rokov, a nie o 20-30 rokov t.j. za ich zivota? Boli rovnake sluby v mode aj poslednych 50 rokov? Naplnili sa?
Ked sa blizili 90. roky, bol som skluceny. Zacinalo mi byt divne, ze vsetky novinky slubovane pocas 20 predchadzajucich rokov sa nejako nepriblizuju. "Ved len o 10 rokov bude rok 2000 a budu antigravitacne auta, jazdiace na vzduch alebo vodik a budu tu ine tie prezentovane veci z DALEKEJ BUDUCNOSTI roku 2000.[35]" (Do roku 2000 po prevrate prisli sice nejake tie diare a PDA, ale nebolo to nic z toho co by ste mohli vidiet na obrazku roku 2000 z rokov 1970-1980.) Zacinal som mat zly pocit z toho, ze sa tieto veci asi nenastanu. "V blizkej buducnosti budu cesty do vesmiru rovnako caste a jednoduche ako dnes cesta lietadlom." (skutocny citat) Taketo tvrdenia zaplavovali media pred patdesiatimi rokmi rovnako ako dnes. Tiez sa nemozno spolahnut na to, ze "od roku 2000 budeme vyrabat energiu vo fuznych elektrarnach", pretoze to svetove kapacity tvrdili v roku 1950 a neskor.
V roku 2000 tvdili znova: "V roku 2050 bude mozne vyrabat energiu fuznou cestou."
Takze ak zoberiem lubovolny slub a budem ho opakovat s kadenciou 1 za 40 rokov, moj vyskumny ustav ma prezitie zarucene. Aspon dufam. Pre istotu toho budem tvrdit viac.
Je absurdne, ze to vobec cele funguje.
Cena - cena za pokrok
Na financovanie zariadeni a vedcov potrebnych na vyskumy je potrebny funkcny ekonomicky retazec. Vedec tvori, priemysel vyraba a spotrebitel kupuje.
Takyto retazec umoznuje investovat do vyskumu. Oblasti vyskumu sa s casom mierne rozsiruju. Pocet vyskumnikov ale narasta rychlejsie aby novinky radovo zlozitejsie (priklad I4004 -> Pentium4 po dnes, alebo Hercules -> Radeon 9800) mohli prichadzat v pravidelnych casovych intervaloch a tvorit ekonomicky stimul. Su predpoklady pre trvaly vznik dalsich tisicov vedeckych odbornikov, alebo nam chybaju uz dnes? Skutocne je tu dostatocna vedecka zakladna na VSETKY tie vizie?
Spotreba obyvatelov tejto planety zakonite rastie - v mene pokroku.
Venujme sa len energetickej spotrebe. Nielen spotrebe fosilnych paliv, ktorych sa v USA spotrebuje 50% svetovej spotreby. Vsetky zariadenia, ktore clovek vyrobil potrebuju energiu, ci uz pocas prevadzky alebo tiez vyroby.
Vznikaju otazky: Ake je mnozstvo volnej tepelnej energie, ktorym obstastnujeme tuto planetu? Ake je maximalne mnozstvo, ktore si mozeme dovolit dlhodobo uvolnovat? Venujme sa prvej otazke. Z jednej starsej schemy vidno, ze v pomere 100% k energii dodanej planete Zem Slnkom je z ludskej cinnosti 0,005%, z geotermalnej 0,02%. Na fotosyntezu sa spotrebuje 0,1%, na vietor 2% slnecnej energie. Ulozena mrtva organicka hmota (buduce fosilne paliva) tvori 0,004% energie dodanej slnkom. Tieto cisla by ukazovali na 25% prekrocenie trvale udrzatelnej spotreby, ale... Spotreba paliv / produkcia volnej tepelnej energie stale rastie, azda linearne s casom. Sucasnym tempom mozeme ocakavat dvojnasobnu spotrebu paliv v rozpati rokov 2020-2030. Popritom sa ale v 1991 na svetovej konferencii v Rio de Janeiro zavazne dohodlo znizovanie spotreby fosilnych paliv (a tym aj produkcie) na 50% spotreby roku 1991. Zacali sa kvoli tomuto hromadne vyuzivat obnovitelne zdroje? (Pripadne jadrove elektrarne ;))
Alebo bojuje kazdy stat za seba a svoje zaujmy? Slovensko dnes stoji na strane tych "dobrych", lebo sa o to administrativne staraju ludia ktorym na tom zalezi. Skoda len, ze na nas nezalezi.
Je absurdne, ze to vobec cele funguje.
The article discusses the potential risks and dangers of relying too heavily on promising technologies that may or may not be realized in the future. It mentions ways in which societies have been let down by technologies that did not live up to expectations. The article also raises questions about the costs of pursuing progress and the impact this has on the environment and society.- https://beta.character.ai/chat2?char=XG5C4eZfnTeKhQRmLVpyRN-5IXGRmxokvho3TOLLVCk
John Berkey - johnberkey.com | John Berkey was an American artist known for his space and science fiction themed works. Some of Berkey's best-known work includes much of the original poster art for the Star Wars trilogy, the poster for the 1976 remake of King Kong and also the "Old Elvis Stamp". | Wikipedia
"better Windows 95" - Some classic Progressbar95 wallpapers from PB95-98. Progressbar95 is a nostalgic casual game about old computers available on Android, iOS and Steam
~ #2 - Happy hardcore x 90s positivism (also, 90s silicon valley dream on c.a.r.i. (are.na)) [look for https://www.michaklein.com/catalogue] - just note
idealism over connected world, better future, "internet communism"[5]if you will, usernet elitists in disapproval of Eternal September, "There is no Cabal", alt-net, pre-2005(7/8) net, pre- Zubatoff net capitalism, positivism, relief, fun, freedom, love, compassion, understanding, ...
pro-freedom hackers, cyberpunk(*), "long bloom", "promised 80s~y2k neverland", (once upon a time-space - Barrille) futures; human-library-utopic, free world, calm, pre-9/11 dreams (y2k), new ways-opportunities-progress, tech = (as) saviour, "gay space free commie", unity-community-mutual help-understanding[5](**), econ. boom, "kids are alright"/no real deal, small media-only, man vs himself/bad habits (spooks?), theories of mind and research (everything is relative>no meaning, value>nihilism); slow steady steps, new school(s) of thought, "kids = (are) future", "we biuld this city"/people-first, man-gov collab. ~mutual help...
Lost futures, vaporwave + vaporWare, warez, cyberpunk, decentralised idealists, web of people (not people for web), being free, shaping new future, libertarian ("nice") "anarchy"...
Positive Outlook for the New Millennium: - related to, but positive side, of Cyberneticpunk
Fresh Start: The transition from the 20th century to the 21st century symbolized a fresh start for many people. It was an opportunity to leave behind the challenges and conflicts of the past and embrace a new era with optimism.
Millennium Celebrations: People all over the world celebrated the year 2000 with a sense of hope and excitement. It was seen as a momentous occasion, and many cities organized elaborate events and fireworks displays to mark the occasion.
Belief in Progress: The technological progress of the late 1990s contributed to the belief that innovation and advancement would continue to improve the quality of life in the new millennium. Many envisioned a future with greater convenience, connectivity, and opportunities.
Expectations of Positive Change: People looked forward to positive changes in various aspects of life, including education, healthcare, communication, and entertainment. There was a sense that technology would drive these improvements.While the early 2000s did bring about significant technological advancements and changes, they also presented new challenges and complexities. However, the optimism of the late 1990s was a testament to the belief in human innovation and the potential for a brighter future through technology and positive change.
what caused the fall?[]
The dissipation of Y2K positivism, or the decline in optimism following the Y2K transition, can be attributed to several factors:
Resolution of Y2K Issues: One of the main reasons for the decline in Y2K optimism was the relatively smooth resolution of Y2K-related problems. The extensive preparations made by governments, businesses, and organizations to address the Y2K bug led to minimal disruptions when the new millennium began. As a result, people's fears about widespread computer failures and chaos did not materialize, leading to a sense of relief but also a diminishing of the urgency associated with Y2K.
Economic Downturn: The early 2000s saw the bursting of the dot-com bubble and a significant economic downturn. Many technology companies that were at the forefront of the Y2K preparations faced financial challenges, and the optimism that had accompanied the late 1990s tech boom waned. The economic uncertainty contributed to a more cautious outlook.
Shift in Priorities: As the world moved past Y2K, new challenges and events took center stage. The September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks in the United States and subsequent geopolitical developments shifted public attention and priorities. The focus on national security and counterterrorism efforts replaced some of the optimism that had characterized the late 1990s.
Realities of Technological Progress: While technology continued to advance, the dot-com bubble's burst demonstrated that not all technological innovations led to immediate prosperity. The complexities of the technology sector became more evident, leading to a more measured view of the potential and risks associated with technology.
Natural Progression: Like many periods of optimism, the initial excitement often gives way to a more balanced and realistic perspective. The year 2000 represented a symbolic turning point, and as time passed, the world adapted to the challenges and opportunities of the new millennium.
Overall, the dissipation of Y2K positivism can be seen as a natural response to changing circumstances and evolving priorities, as well as the resolution of a specific technological concern.
Other name(s): "the way we dreamed", "tech-zine future", ("too good...") > rel. name "Neverw(h)ere futures"(*); "foamform wanna-be's", - maybe even ( < rel. name) "Little of variables accounted for (LOVAF)" (< ?)
- (*) > sub-category: - Various futures: ($/ in-article):>> world imagined; in 10, 50, 100, 500 years - (1800s, 1900s, 1950s-1980s(**))
(...) Overall, the text reflects a deep interest in aesthetics and cultural movements, and a desire to explore the ways in which these movements reflect and shape our cultural values and ideals. The author is interested in the ways in which aesthetics can inspire creativity and imagination, and in the potential for these movements to shape a better future.
Fisher argued that these movements reflect a sense of disillusionment with the present and a longing for a future that never arrived, a future that was promised by the technological and cultural advances of the 20th century but was ultimately derailed by economic and political forces beyond our control. He believed that the cultural obsession with lost futures reflects a deeper sense of malaise and despair, which he attributed to the neoliberal economic policies and social fragmentation of the late 20th and early 21st centuries.
Yes, that's correct. Mark Fisher believed that the cultural obsession with lost futures reflects a deeper sense of malaise and despair that is present in contemporary society. He argued that this sense of malaise is a result of the failures of neoliberalism, which has led to economic inequality, social fragmentation, and a general sense of hopelessness and despair.
Fisher believed that the cultural movements that are characterized by a sense of nostalgia and longing for lost futures, such as Vaporwave and Cyberpunk, are a response to this sense of malaise. These movements offer a way for people to express their frustration with the present and their longing for a better future, even if that future is only imagined or remembered.
Overall, Fisher's work on lost futures is an attempt to understand the cultural and psychological underpinnings of contemporary[11]society. By exploring the ways in which cultural movements reflect and respond to the social and economic conditions of their time, Fisher sought to shed light on the deeper forces that shape our beliefs, values, and aspirations.
Yes, that's correct. Mark Fisher believed that the cultural obsession with lost futures reflects a deeper sense of malaise and despair that is present in contemporary society. He argued that this sense of malaise is a result of the failures of neoliberalism, which has led to economic inequality, social fragmentation, and a general sense of hopelessness and despair.
Yes, that's right. Fisher believed that the neoliberal economic policies of the late 20th and early 21st centuries have led to a sense of malaise and despair in contemporary society. He argued that these policies have created economic inequality, social fragmentation, and a general sense of hopelessness and despair among many people.
Fisher believed that the cultural movements that are characterized by a sense of nostalgia and longing for lost futures[41], such as Vaporwave and Cyberpunk, are a response to this sense of malaise. He saw them as a way for people to express their frustration with the present and their longing for a better future, even if that future is only imagined or remembered.
Fisher's work on lost futures is an attempt to understand the cultural and psychological underpinnings of contemporary society. By exploring the ways in which cultural movements reflect and respond to the social and economic conditions of their time, Fisher sought to shed light on the deeper forces that shape our beliefs, values, and aspirations.
The author also suggests several other possible names for this aesthetic, such as "the way we dreamed," "tech-zine future," and "Neverw(h)ere futures." They also suggest subcategories within the aesthetic, such as "Various futures," which includes imagined worlds in 10, 50, 100, and 500 years, and topics such as pro-freedom hackers, cyberpunk, and theories of mind and research. (?)
Overall, the text suggests that the "Quarter-to 21 (century)" aesthetic is characterized by a sense of nostalgia for imagined or lost futures, as well as a belief in the power of technology and progress to create a better future. The aesthetic seems to be associated with various countercultural movements, such as cyberpunk and pro-freedom hacker culture, as well as with a general sense of optimism and hope for the future.
When youve got this urge to yell for/from full lungs "wtf happened to Old Web!", watching as people share their most vile, insane bs publicly , at times in full names, proudly, and they mean it... (NPC)
All those things that were "forbidden" on interwebs, in Olden days... Full names, private photos, talking to randos, and celebrating own stupidity, when i look, it seems. (anti-punk)
And fake-good 90s, 00s-10s critical thinking skills lessons. One ear in, other out(?)… "I find it kind of funny, a funny kind of sad", how opinions change like that, more so, without second thought. Path of least resistance innit…
Privacy gone, but you wanted that. If no one, me neither, as it is fine. «Poop alone > poop with friends»
it is surely easier to convince openness over security, than to make people responsible for mistakes from early age, or something similar… (punk)
<no names. Just unwritten basis on common sense [hello, do you copy, someone!?] (yeeeeeah, BC I forgot - C.S. was sold over to people who don't give a f + that they therefore don't clash with others much, as those types of people could instead of those who got this habit in actual…
- what the eternal dilemmatic tragedy , when cheap points are more than priceless (surplus) points on morality [or call it as you wish, if you, after all this walltext, can still follow up/me thru]>!
Lol. What else piss me off a little and should not is, how "newbies" , instead of lurking as in times of Old Web, sought to be banned at the first try as they spam and annoy the way in entrance/scene. Rude, if you ask me. Where is fear XD?! Respect. Humility??
No clue if you ever noticed that, or it is just nostalgia and anemoia speaking from me. If it is real issue, struggle - or I am just "old school" (2007/08 on). Imagine that; either ｄａ ｗｅｉｚ changed. Or we were like this too. No memories of me being like that tho - or it is just wishful thinking of me, looking from perspective of present day. Either way, got the feels I ever predate that. (teenpunk?)
Not the Culture, be it y2k, Eternal september, or even before that. What I am talking about is, my idea is, - my politics, ways, views, align more with 60s and 80/90s max 10s, than with situations nowadays. (punk?)-
On and on, - as bad as it sounds, - what is normal for one is bigotry for another. Simplifications and generalizations surely don't help that. - Mentioning the before about critical thinking, cheap points, "children bad" morality security, so on. (punk!)
(Worst thing is following The Current thing without further deeper thoughts!!) (NPCs)
spiritually (no Boomer) Hippie DGAF "old soul"
I must've made dozens of "good-faith" fallacies by now XD. Hopes you got me!
What Is Kidcore? Is Kidcore And Decora The Same Thing?
2000's Nostalgia - Virtual Online Worlds, Flash Game Websites + Apps I've Played
For the vast majority of people here, the internet was kind of like jumping in an alternate reality, connected but distinctly seperated from the normal world. This often took the form of video games, personal blogs, forum and the like.
For most people however, the internet is just an extension of reality. A very advanced telephone service essentially.
There was a period of time (late 90s to early 2000s) where essentially two main type of people on the internet: Tech professionals and nerds. The internet was attractive to nerds because it provided an alternative of reality and was an efficient time killer. As such, people who grew up in a nerd-culture dominated internet became unsatisifed when "normies" started to flow in, for it betrayed their mental model - their interpretation of what the internet should be.(*)[23]
"Slow cancelation of future" term, refering to Mark Fisher's[9] thesis on our inability to create visions of (new; positive) future(s)... (Derida, Stirner... - "throwing away" our learned ways, biased views on perception of present day - and possible/possibility of future; world "ever changing"...
According to Fisher, the quotation "it is easier to imagine an end to the world than an end to capitalism", attributed to both Fredric Jameson and Slavoj Žižek, encompasses the essence of capitalist realism. Capitalist realism is loosely defined as the predominant conception that capitalism is the only viable economic system, and thus there can be no imaginable alternative. Fisher likens capitalist realism to a "pervasive atmosphere" that affects areas of cultural production, political-economic activity, and general thought. (Wikipedia; #2)
The End of History and the Last Man is a 1992 book of political philosophy by American political scientist Francis Fukuyama which argues that with the ascendancy of Western liberal democracy—which occurred after the Cold War (1945–1991) and the dissolution of the Soviet Union (1991)—humanity has reached "not just ... the passing of a particular period of post-war history, but the end of history as such: That is, the end-point of mankind's ideological evolution and the universalization of Western liberal democracy as the final form of human government."[44] (Wikipedia)
Failure of civil society and political decayIn 2014, on the occasion of the 25th anniversary of the publication of the original essay, "The End of History?", Fukuyama wrote a column in The Wall Street Journal again updating his hypothesis. He wrote that, while liberal democracy still had no real competition from more authoritarian systems of government "in the realm of ideas", nevertheless he was less idealistic than he had been "during the heady days of 1989".
The end of history is a political and philosophical concept that supposes that a particular political, economic, or social system may develop that would constitute the end-point of humanity's sociocultural evolution and the final form of human government. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End_of_history
spans cca 2004-2009, disipates slowly thru 2012-2015 (2007-2013)
related: Occupy Wall Streetis a series of protests in New York City and elsewhere across the United States that seek to resolve socioeconomic inequality and influence of corporate lobbying on Washington politics, as well as a number of other social injustices.(0) Mostly coordinated via social networking services like Twitter and Facebook without a central organizer, the flash-mob demonstration(0) began on September 17th, 2011 and its participants have since set up base in Zuccotti Park (formerly known as "Liberty Park") near Wall Street.
I think it was the height of free speech in my lifetime:
The Evangelical Christian Conservatives had lost the cultural power to enforce their prudishness and were mocked by comedians.
The 80's/90's PC movements from the leftist academics had not gained any traction, and were mocked by comedians.
People who got themselves all worked up and offended by things were rightfully mocked as the weak morons the are.
It was "anything goes" when it comes to comedy, horror, political discourse. And everyone recognized it as a good thing.
Xbox live voice chat.But then at some point it seems like the progressives realized that the Christians Conservatives didn't have the power to censor anyone anymore, and that was the signal that the left no longer had to pretend to care about free speech. Thus began an ever growing snowball of political correctness (anti-punk) which continues to this day and busted open the doors for all sorts of impending speech controls in the name of bullshit like "misinformation", "disinformation" and the new term they made up as an excuse to censor verifiably true things: "malinformation".[23]
(Also can relate to section below)
NW_Cryptid said:
I think in a lot of ways, a big reason I love the aesthetic is that it has a lot to do with discovery and exploration of a technological future. At the time things were given so much personality and meaning rather than being the same ol same ol we see today. These days people won't do anything that isn't "safe" they aren't willing to take a bet on something that hasn't been done before which is unfortunate considering how in the 00's everything was a gamble.
I personally have very fond memories of how things were, how different everything was. Even in the late 90's with things like the Gameboy, having a purple see-through gameboy color was so much cooler than just having a red or blue one. Those were the days when people could express themselves not just with what brands they owned but by what color and shape and size of everything they had.
Everything someone owned was a statement piece about who they were and their personality as an aspect of them. We just don't have that anymore. Everything is the same dull color tones, same boring shapes and sizes, same as his, same as hers. I won't argue that conforming is an entirely bad thing, I'm of the belief that being unique within a unified group is the best self you can be, original where it matters;
but understanding of others and willing to cooperate. Which is exactly how it felt to whip out a gaming console or cellphone of a brand you and your friends all owned, but with such unique properties that it truly was yours.[23]
[19]@K1ng1995 I think that there are two reasons why people don't want to work anymore. the first is that they have been taught that their ambition is destructive and that anything they would have wanted to do will just burn electricity that they believe is a more finite resource than it actually is. The second is that because fewer people are being ambitious leaders, those who tend to be followers don't have anyone to inspire them to work for them.
~~ Also, *when* "Oldest Web"/"Old Alt.-nets" (Work name)? (1980s-1992/93) - "Eternal September", "there is no Cabal" and such?
There Is No Cabal (abbreviated TINC) is a catchphrase and running joke found on Usenet. The journalist Wendy M. Grossman writes that its appearance on the alt.usenet.cabal FAQ reflects conspiracy accusations as old as the Internet itself. The anthropologist Gabriella Coleman writes that the joke reveals "discomfort over the potential for corruption by meritocratic leaders". (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_Is_No_Cabal)
Eternal Septemberor the September that never ended is Usenet slang for a period beginning around 1993 when Internet service providers began offering Usenet access to many new users. The flood of new users overwhelmed the existing culture for online forums and the ability to enforce existing norms. AOL followed with their Usenet gateway service in March 1994, leading to a constant stream of new users. Hence, from the early Usenet point of view, the influx of new users in September 1993 never ended. Wikipedia (somewhat cyber;punk)
In the 80s not a lot of people had access to any kind of internet but there were Bulletin Board Systems (BBS) and email and such. BBS were like forums where people could post things. In the 90s it was all about chat rooms and in the late 90s, instant messenger. Chat rooms were great (especially fancy ones that let you have avatars) and you’d just hop on and randomly chat with people. Most people had their own website too (often Geocities pages[4]or later on, AngelFire). People were a lot more tech savvy and polite online back then because if you were rude you’d get banned from the chat room.EDIT: Oh, and the fun thing about people having their own website[3][4]is most people had a page counter and guest book. The page counter let you know how many visitors you had while the guest book were for site visitors to sign and leave a message if they wished. You could later read the messages. You also may have been part of a “web ring” where you had a special link at the bottom of your page that let you connect to other similar pages that were part of the ring.Instant Messenger was super popular too since you could instantly message your friends without the need to hop into a chat room. In the early 2000s that’s when you saw the rise of social media (*homogenization) pop up with MySpace[4]and later Facebook. There were some earlier types like LiveJournal but they never really took off.There was also the rise of smart phones around this time which lead to the demise of instant messaging apps.
In the 1980s, social networking as we know it today did not exist. Users communicated through bulletin board systems (BBS), leaving messages and playing text-based games. In the 1990s, online communities and forums emerged with the growth of the internet. Usenet newsgroups allowed users to engage in discussions on various topics. Online services like CompuServe and AOL provided chat rooms and message boards.
In the early 2000s, dedicated forum platforms like Yahoo Groups and MSN Groups gained popularity. Internet forums became structured spaces for discussions. The mid to late 2000s saw the rise of social networking platforms such as Friendster, MySpace, and Facebook. These platforms emphasized personal connections and self-expression[4]. Online forums continued to exist with platforms like phpBB and vBulletin.
Throughout these decades, social networking and forums were primarily text-based, with limited multimedia content. Communication was often asynchronous, with users posting messages and others responding later. Privacy settings were limited, and the user experience was simpler compared to today's platforms. The advancements in technology and the growth of social media have since transformed online communication.
New Sincerity New Sincerity is a trend in music, aesthetics, literary fiction, film criticism, poetry, literary criticism and philosophy that generally describes creative works that expand upon and break away[14] from concepts of postmodernist irony and cynicism. Its usage dates back to the mid-1980s; however, it was popularized in the 1990s by American author David Foster Wallace. Wikipedia
"on the proliferation of content in culture: self-focused, often narcissistic commentary, opinions, life-hacks and problem sharing."
Amanda Silberling of TechCrunch called corecore an "absurdist meme" and wrote that the aesthetic has "techno-futurism-doom vibes", with most of the genre's videos being "tied together by a general malaise — a concern that life has no meaning and technology is alienating us from one another." Silberling was among many contemporary media writers to compare corecore to Dadaism.
[...] presented with the societal dread induced from doom-scrolling on one's phone at 2 am after one too many bong rips on a weeknight [...] but at the very least, it's an evidence-based manner of expressing one's frustrations with the world that seems to strike a chord with a large number of TikTok users." Felicity Martin of i-D wrote that corecore "might be the hardest to explain or rationalize" among TikTok trends, opining that the genre's videos "amateurishly splice together unrelated clips, touching on topics such as loneliness and feeling unattractive."
Segalovich noted the praise of corecore in many media articles from early 2023, commenting "They've lauded corecore for how vividly it evokes young people's frustration and panic looking down the barrel of climate and capitalist catastrophe," but opined that the coverage overlooked "the real message behind most of these videos: the terrifying rates of loneliness among young men and boys, which has led many into depression, suicide, and bigotry. And for some, corecore might only make it worse." Segalovich added that the themes in corecore videos could exacerbate depressed feelings for viewers. Segalovich also cited comparisons between Dada and corecore, noting that the two genres have a sense of despondency in response to world events, but opined that such "declarations of meaninglessness and hopelessness often lead to authoritarianism."
Writing about the aesthetic in retrospect for Flash Art in August 2023, Declan Colquitt and Hannah Cobb (jointly writing under the pseudonym Y7) stated that corecore "was a program of scale undertaken from an anti- anthropomorphic POV, an insensate delirium scanning an ultimately inconceivable hyperobject of communicative media; and yet it was also a program of yearning and melancholy; of cancelled futures, of attempts to reconcile with endcore's cauterized horizons."
Commercialization of the Internet - WikipediaThe commercialization[4][48]of the Internet encompasses the creation and management of online services principally for financial gain[13]. It typically involves the increasing monetization of network services and consumer products mediated through the varied use of Internet technologies. Wikipedia
The global internet took shape in academia by the second half of the 1980s, as well as many other computer networks of both academic and commercial use such as USENET, Fidonet, and the Bulletin Board System. By 1989 the Internet and the networks linked to it were a global system with extensive transoceanic satellite links and nodes in most developed countries. Based on earlier work, from 1980 onwards Tim Berners Lee formalized the concept of the World Wide Web by 1989. Television viewing became commonplace in the Third World, with the number of TV sets in China and India increasing by 15 and 10 times respectively.
[The global Internet took shape in academia by the second half of the 1980s as well as many other computer networks of both academic and commercial use such as USENET, ... a global system with extensive transoceanic satellite links and nodes in most rich countries. Based on earlier work from 1980 onwards Tim Berners Lee formalized the concept of the World Wide Web by 1989] and performed its earliest demonstrations in December 1990 and 1991. Television viewing became commonplace in the Third World, with the number of TV sets in China and India increasing by 15 and 10 times respectively.
A combination of factors, including the continued mass mobilization of capital markets through neo-liberalism, the thawing of the decades-long Cold War, the beginning of the widespread proliferation of new media such as the Internet from the middle of the decade onwards, increasing skepticismtowards government[4][8], and the dissolution of the Soviet Union led to a realignment and reconsolidation of economic and political power[10]across the world and within countries. The dot-com bubble of 1997–2000 brought wealth to some entrepreneurs before its crash between 2000 and 2001. (cyberpunk, cybercore...)
Some feel like the early public internet in the 1990s and the early 2000s espoused way more egalitarian, cozy, individually expressive and usable qualities, and that corporate influence, greed and monopolization are the reason for the internet's increasing negativity. The early days of Geocities, IRC, MSN Messenger, Myspace, forums and bulletin boards, mailing lists and so on are considered the heyday of the internet.
The experimentation, customization and ability to express yourself are said to have been much higher back when the internet was far less regulated and, for better or for worse, less "sanitized[13]". Tiny communities were more common, and making a website was considered to be a creative exercise with barely any rules.
The web was "weirder"! There were less subscription services, social media used to let you customize way more than just profile picture and bio, the hurdles to hosting a website were lower, and there was real diversity in communities out there.
People who subscribe to this idea tend to emphasize and imitate the retro aspect of the internet, hacking together your own website, using strong constrasts, color combinations that others would consider strikingly ugly, a plethora of fonts, blinkingdesigns, guest books, automatic music playing, chat rooms, web rings and so on.
They tend to revive old messengers such as ICQ or the Escargot MSN Messenger remake, use IRC and other technology now largely considered vintage such as Windows XP. People in this community tend to focus on the artistic and aesthetic expressive side of the hobby, and might come from Tumblr, TikTok or Twitter. "Retro internet/web" or "old internet/web" are common words they describe the subculture, not to forget "yesterweb", which was one of the most influential (and to an extent, infamous) communities in the foundation of this culture.[4]
Postcapitalist Desire: The Final Lectures by Mark Fisher review - New Statesman
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when y2k came, it was for people, like dream, fascination - hope:
- year 2000 is at the door, world looks bright, internet is "ough" to "solve" all our problems, maybe even "to topple the game (of rich bastards) down"...
-- feeling like this - if you got me (this sentiment, dream of utopia, unity, mutual understanding "coz of net" - oh man, if they knew...)
- which reminds me of thread [sic] "MLP and New Sincerity" - about being sincere, "you", - all that *sweet* (or not) jazz...
addendum:
#0 punks and emos of 2000s-2010s: basically "When we were young" fest, - safe for fact it was then "current thing": pic-rel + all those rock, punk, emo, - things playing on radio --- a psyop??? + 80s (music, not aesthetics) nostalgia occuring around that time... : music-rel (yeah, pretty much this playlist is "getting rich" from nostalgia - go, figure :/)
#1 youtube campaign "broadcoast yourself" - dawg man, i am so confussed how we could "get bought" over this - and believe come corporation! it sounds so - ironic; looking at it from lens of someone, living in *these* times "after fad"... - really believing(?) that commonmen can, thru sheer "influence" thru net, shape world... (what a joke!!!) [were we sold on *this feeling"!???]
#1b general naiivity over "corporations allowing us all this" - how was that not suspicious!! i wonder... (letting our guard and awareness so low) ~ but then, werent we (born 1999-and so; living with siblings (sister), of 8 year difference...)
#1.5 campaign of web providers (geocities, goDaddy or such), *basically* saying "be you"/"promote yourself"
(if you get me, that is; i am - getting nostalgic, over something i very fogly remember - in fact, now i get - why those "boomers" over here are getting nostalgic over living in socialism (when, they were kids... - so was i...)
--- WAS this all^ psy-op - contrarian messages, just "selling feeling", scham, make-believe dreams?
or is it that *there somewhere*, it was "all taken away from us" - well, as i see, that is very little probability, and it was just tactic to "get everyone on net" - those fxxx bastards!! (#me, being naiive...)
↑ 8.08.18.2Hauntology is not just a symptom of the times, though: it is itself haunted by a nostalgia for all our lost futures. "So what would it mean, then, to look for the future's remnants?" asks Owen Hatherley at the beginning of Militant Modernism, "Can we, should we, try and excavate utopia?" It might just be worth a shot. (https://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2011/jun/17/hauntology-critical)
↑ 12.012.112.212.312.4Note regards to duplicate ideas: You might have noticed "90s Positivity" and among other(s); "Oldest/Vista/Alta Web" too - use similar/same aspects in their aesthetics. This is because all/many of these aethetics were "in" during similar time, and also; their similar look/aspects, - retro-actively speaking.
↑ 13.013.113.213.3The Internet has created a seismic disruption to the balance of power in the media. It is getting easier and easier to post your thoughts, photos, or videos. Yet the Wild West of the Web is being tamed. Small Internet service providers are being driven out of business, with corporations like Comcast, Time Warner, Verizon, and AT&T dominating the market. Privacy, security, and the freedom to publish without fear of censorship are dwindling with each merger, with each effort by corporate lobbyists to further restrict the open Internet in favor of a narrow profit advantage.
Amy Goodman The Silenced Majority: Stories of Uprisings, Occupations, Resistance, and Hope with Denis Moynihan (2012)
↑ 14.014.114.214.314.4The utopian vision of an open, reliable, and secure global network has not been achieved and is unlikely ever to be realized. Today, the internet is less free, more fragmented, and less secure.
w:Council on Foreign Relations Confronting Reality in Cyberspace: Foreign Policy for a Fragmented Internet (Updated July 2022)
↑ 15.015.1===The internet has changed...===
It's surprising how many people equate "the Internet" with "social media". It's like having access to 1,000,000x the Library of Alexandria every day, and only being interested in keeping up with what people are talking about in the lobby.
The internet used to be:
a place for creative expression vastly customizable a space for people, by people
The internet has become:
a marketplace (and we are the product) a one-sided social experience a capitalist hellscape
↑ 21.021.1idea: question is, if we, in the end , wouldnt end in the same path as those we hate, those rich bitches. tired to improve things, and to just see others suffer, because it is ever easier than to build anew, where everything , the "floor", is just past fame, glitter and zombieland that wont die
↑Most of us employ the Internet not to seek the best information, but rather to select information that confirms our prejudices.
↑On Apathy:
Man. I don't want to shit on the current generation too much because it's been done to death, but you're gonna be hard-pressed to find a late zoomer/Gen-A who can use a hammer or any other tool properly. It's like there's no awareness of the world around them. We're talking missing 9/10 of the time with a hammer. Honestly, I think they're just tired of it all and don't care to learn anymore. I can't blame them. It feels like the whole world is falling apart, but never enough to bring an end to the stress that comes from it. Perhaps it's a demoralization sort of thing. A "_______ is going to happen so it won't matter anyway." sort of situation. Everyone is just tired and doesn't have the energy to care.
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↑In true Pygmalion fashion, the oligarchy was able to “scientifically justify” their misanthropic view of global governance by first breaking humanity’s kneecaps and then arguing that we were never meant to run.
Take, for instance, the fact that the slashing of fusion power research begun under the Trilateral Commission-controlled Presidency of Jimmy Carter, which has continued unabated until the present day.
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↑Schlesinger’s worldview as a priest of doom was defined in a 1960 book where he said:
“Economics is the science of choice in a world of limited resources…. We have gone around the world spreading the ‘gospel of plenty’ raising the level of expectations … [but] in the nature of things, these rising expectations can never be satisfied…. We must in our strategic policy return to the days before the Industrial Revolution … [and] prepare to fight limited wars.” -https://canadianpatriot.org/2022/11/26/the-club-of-rome-and-the-rise-of-the-predictive-modelling-mafia/
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- i was played on.
-- world of broken promises pre-2001~2008...
--- "you need to be unique to stand out", so, next step in my mind was > "no way to be normie" >> i never knew what *they* (who?) meant
- does computers screw us all in some way? or was is that we made ourselves... we build them... then, we dont know ourselves > you dont know things until it is too late? or > was it "The Plan"? use people as puppets > "NPC Naysayers"? - to make all sorts of crazy laws? power-trip?
I dont want to - but, do i HAVE TO be bad, in any sense?
-- Last time i had any confidence was in 2010-2015... but it was nothing much, it was just fuzzy feeling. there were bad things, yet, i felt fine...
so, do i hate myself now? because - why? am i afraid to lose that? then, what happened!? is it some kind of trauma - or simply, disability to adapt? maybe thats why --- i miss 2008-2013 - times when i could be naiive. myself. no pretend, even if i wanted to... is it only now that i am afraid? or am i going insane and want to blame others for "making problems to sell cure"?
- maybe i never was teenager, so with strict and boomers-like parents, it is like i have to make my dreams now - if i only wanted to - if i wasnt so emberassed...
-- "teen-ages in stasis"? > peter pan syndrome? --- i dont want to live in my head - but what to do -
- what i even want?? - am i afraid of success, of being "too strong", "bad" to others? there are like milion things...
AM I NORMAL?: could be, maybe i am just afraid to be
↑ 32.032.1[[User blog:Doom-gloom-city-pop/Utopistic Nostalgias#future anticipation,[4] and musings: (personal) [and, dissatisfaction[5]/fall[6][7]]]]
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shushing the opposition, "thinking few", coz "GoV KnOwS BeSt!"
no place to share ideas == no future (no innovation; coz "OnLy KaPiTaLiZm CaN BrInG VaRiAtIoN!!!")
then, cooks go to their own places and you are CuRiOuS why Belief in gov. is the lowest ever!!!
coz you dont want dialogue! you want truth, no matter what - your truth - even by price of being phony, the only one - there is no "bad opinion" if you ban, shadowban everyone else!?!! (dumbass!)
<yeah, divide and conquir, old song...>
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↑That's the beauty of the Web: You can roll around in a stranger's obsession without having to smell his or her house. You can amscray whenever you want without being rude. The site gets its "hit" and you know more about our species' diversity.
Penn Jillette (October 15, 1997). "Free Celebrity Nudes!". Penn's Columns. Penn & Teller. Retrieved on 2008-06-29.
↑Despite the fact that the emergence of capitalist realism is tied to the birth of neoliberalism, Fisher is clear to state that capitalist realism and neoliberalism are separate entities that simply reinforce each other. According to Fisher, capitalist realism has the potential to live past the demise of neoliberal capitalism, though Fisher posits that the opposite would not be true. Capitalist realism is inherently anti-utopian, as it holds that no matter the flaws or externalities, capitalism is the only possible means of operation. Neoliberalism conversely glorifies capitalism by portraying it as providing the means necessary to pursue and achieve near-utopian socioeconomic conditions. In this way, capitalist realism pacifies opposition to neoliberalism's overly positive projections while neoliberalism counteracts the despair and disillusionment central to capitalist realism with its utopian claims. - Capitalist Realism - Wikipedia
↑The commercial exploitation of the web has become a growing facet of the world economy, particularly in the last several years. In June 1999 NUA Internet Surveys estimated that 179 million people are connected to the Internet worldwide. A recent study by the University of Texas sponsored by Cisco Systems estimated that the "Internet Economy" generated $300 billion in revenue in the United States alone.
Conrad Johnson and Brian Donnelly, “A BRIEF HISTORY OF THE WORLD WIDE WEB AND THE INTERNET “, Part 6, Columbia.edu, (Oct 24, 2003).
[1]: (answer)... / "While these developments did indeed empower individuals and challenge established norms, they also sparked legal and regulatory battles. Copyright holders, for example, fought against the unauthorized sharing of their content, leading to legal actions against file-sharing platforms. Additionally, as the internet matured, large corporations entered the digital space, and the landscape became more commercialized. / Despite these challenges, the early optimism about the internet's disruptive potential remains a significant part of its history, and many of the ideas and technologies from that era continue to shape the digital world today."
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my tag is #2010 Millenial Net Utopia, if you see it (re-/)posted from @nutzo0001, dont be scared, it is my main, and unrelated to this my second project
what is it/this about?
well... it tries to map "zeitgeist changes thru-out the years and last decade(s)" or so, i.e. "modern history" from 90s-on, 90s-2020s span mainly
